Earth Hour: Will You Turn Off Your Lights?
At 8:30 p.m. local time in more than 80 countries, an estimated 1 billion people will turn off their lights. Will you be one of them?
Earth hour is almost upon us. Will you be going dark at 8:30 p.m.?
Earth Hour is a global World Wildlife Fund initiative that began in Sydney, Aulstralia in 2007, when 2 million people switched off their lights. In 2008, more than 50 million people all over the world took part in the action, according to Earth Hour's website. In 2009 almost 1 billion people worldwide switched off their lights. By 2011, Earth Hour involved 135 countries with more than 1.8 billion people participating.
In countries and on continents where the hour has already occurred, hundreds of world landmarks from Berlin's Brandenburg Gate to the Great Wall of China went dark earlier today.
Earth Hour is held on the last Saturday of March every year, and began as a Sydney-only event in 2007. The Sydney Opera House was dimmed again this year.
The goal is to inspire people to reduce their energy consumption every day, not by sitting in the dark for an hour each night, but by taking simple steps that can have a dramatic effect.
Here are a few examples of how to support Earth Hour year long:
- Switch to energy-efficient CFL or LED lights instead of traditional incandescent bulbs. Lighting accounts for about 5 percent of residential greenhouse gas emissions.
- Turn off or unplug computers, televisions, cell-phone chargers, microwave ovens, and other appliances and electrical devices when they’re not in use instead of leaving them on standby.
- Turn off lights when you leave a room or finish work for the day.
- Encourage your company to shut off lights and unused appliances when no one is working.
- Heat only the rooms you use regularly.
- Use less hot water.
EBC
9:16 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012
Wish I had known about this even earlier, I would have participated.
Bryce
9:43 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012
The way I look at it, if the earth wanted me to turn my lights off, she wouldn't have made coal in the first place.
G-Money
10:21 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012
Oh, so that's why the street lights downtown weren't working. I thought it may have been an idea to try to make Ferndale look edgy or something. Like we need more cities like that around here. ; )
Mofo
11:01 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012
I'm gonna turn all of mine on. Rebel!
Norm Thompson
7:54 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012
The count must now be over 2 billion sheeple. TRULY AMAZING!
Patricia Kane
9:03 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012
Unnecessary and over lighting just uses up resources faster --the night is natural
over lighting and unnecessary lighting is just plain selfish and in many cases intrudes on others private property and rights within private property that the origin of the source of the light does not own or have rights to. You may not have turned off the lights, but it is a proven fact, you can turn them down, or lower them --not have as many outside outside and still have the desired effect on YOUR property without a problem. The people who leave lights on all through the night and "shutter" themselves up so they can't even see what they are illumnating are selfish. When resources have to be rationed or increase in price, maybe they will understand.
M. Imsosure
12:16 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
The comma is your friend. If you had used them, your post would have made sense.
Mrs. W.
2:24 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012
What? It's so hard to read your posts due to your poor grammar.
Nancy Hanus
9:09 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012
I felt pretty good about waking up this morning to a dark house – I turned the lights off last night for Earth Hour, and didn't turn them back on. It made me realize how wasteful I am in leaving lights on through the night in bathrooms, the kitchen – just so it will be easier for me to see when I wake up. Not such a big deal -- and such a simple thing.
CcMG
9:13 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012
I think if I were Patricia Kane's next door neighbor I would install extra floodlights around my property just to annoy her.
Patricia Kane
7:07 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
Since when is your name on the tax roles our mortgage of your neighbors property?
And a neighbor who later went to jail on other charges did just that-and we removed the lights (all of them from "the neighbor") from our property through the courts--the courts understand property rights better than someone like you-its called over lighting, light trespass, and in a case as you describe, harassment. Thank goodness there is still common sense and people who understand where property rights start and end. Your neighbors must love you--
Rob
9:16 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012
This is a little tidbit leading up to Agenda 21.Controlling the masses in the name of saving the environment.
When you hear the term new world order and one world government.This is how they plan to make it happen.
Google Agenda 21,sustainable development and the Wildlands Project.
People need to take the time to learn about the real reasons behind these things.
There is much more than meets the eye than going green.
By the way,this NOT a right vs. left issue.Please don`t fall for the divide and conquer routine.Everybody should want a clean environment.But not at the cost of your freedoms.
Sue Burstein
12:01 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
Thank goodness the majority of the responders to this have common sense, and understand this is just one more ploy of the far left to try to control the sheeples. There is NO global warming, and there is NO need to turn off your lights for an hour. What a ridiculous idea. But, my guess is these same people protested in or supported OWA and we saw who all those folks were.
M. Imsosure
12:17 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
I leave my outside floodlights on by use of a timer. A dark yard and driveway is inviting trouble.
Mrs. W.
2:22 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012
I'm with ya "M."
Scot Beaton
1:28 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
Energy: Michigan...
- Michiganians should work towards energy independence. National politics may never create a sound energy policy for the union. 21st century Michigan should not have a wait and see approach to energy.
- Michiganians should only rely on their own natural resources for energy. Develop a portfolio with proven technologies such as nuclear power; equal or less in cost than dirty coal. Gas costs 3 times as much as nuclear, solar costs 10 times as much (Google, Patrick Moore, one of the co-founders of Greenpeace, opinion on pro nuclear power).
- The technology exists today to capture the current of the Detroit River and turn it into electricity. Where is that forward thinking in Lansing?
to be continued...
Scot Beaton
1:30 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
- Eliminate the "pain at the pump" permanently. Yet again, Michigan has the natural resources, climate, rainfall, soil conditions to do what Brazil did right here in Michigan. With true Michiganian entrepreneurial spirit, create our own fuels (Google Doo-Hong Min, Michigan State University, switchgrass becomes an energy option; it becomes cellulosic ethanol. An acre of switchgrass can produce 300 gallons of cellulosic ethanol! Switchgrass does not compete with human food sources, grows in sandy soils, ideal for a money making crop for the upper and lower penninsula. Eliminating "the pain at the pump" permanently could have an enormous potential for the Michigan economy creating a whole new industry completely separate from big oil. It would be purely Michigan, and a whole new way to buy gas and diesel right here in Michigan. Doo-Hong Min claims he can brew this stuff for around $2.50 a gallon.
Why?
- Our State, the Great State of Michigan, spends billions importing energy form out of state; doesn’t matter if it's coal from Wyoming or oil from Venezuela, it's our money going in the wrong direction. Michiganians have the drive, have the intelligence to switch before any other state or and any province in North America to go green. We need the leadership in Lansing and in the private sector to turn Michigan from the capitol of the “rust belt” into Michigan, the capital of the “green belt!"
to be continued...
Scot Beaton
1:31 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
- Successful 21st century economies will be those who achieve energy independence. There is no rhyme or reason that Michigan cannot achieve this goal... what a difference it would have on the Michigan economy to keep all those billions here at home! Michigan, with over 10 million residents, needs the availability, reliability, and cost savings of energy produced at home! For Michigan homeowners and job providers this is a key factor in terms of our present and future economic growth.
-To compete in the world’s 21st century economy international corporations are locating to states/provinces/countries who have a "green portfolio." To build France's smart car they uses electricity generated from nuclear power. Nuclear power does not produce greenhouse gases that contribute to global warming. Google just built a multi-billion dollar plant in Oregon, the electricity that runs the plant comes from hydro-electric power. Alcoa Aluminum just built a new multi-million dollar plant in of all places, Iceland. Why? The plant runs on geo-thermal power again, no CO2, no carbon footprint. Currently, 60 percent of Michigan electricity relies on dirty coal, a technology that international corporations want to have nothing to do with in the 21st century! If Michigan is serious about competing for jobs in the 21st century then it needs to be the first state/or province in North America to walk away from the fossil-fuel age and it needs to tell the planet that!
to be continued...
Ed Lambert
10:54 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Scot, the nub of the dispute concerning global warming and climate change is human causation for it. Given historical changes in temperatures in various parts of the world over millenia, long before there even was a sizable population of humans, there remains to be proven that we are the cause of these changes.
That does not mean that we needn't conserve and that pollution should not be a concern.
Wanna bet that most in the climate scare business are also associated with other agendas we generally consider to be leftist?
Scot Beaton
5:19 pm on Tuesday, April 3, 2012
Ed... I'm a big fan of Neil DeGrasse Tyson, he made a inserting comment lately. I'll try to paraphrase what he said. A true 'conservative' would want to conserve the plant's natural resources... and a 'liberal' would be the one who is liberal with our natural resources.
Scot Beaton
1:31 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
- A Final Note on Global Warming, The Inuits (native americans) in the Hudson Bay region in Northern Canada who have over a dozen words for snow, they have learned a new word in the past 10 years. That word is "robin." Yes, robins are migrating as far north as Hudson Bay. Funny, something with a brain the size of a robin knows more about global warming then many humans I've meet.
marooned in Dbn
11:20 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
Hey...stop dissin' Robins.
Bryce
5:27 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
Scott, the earth may or may not be warming. That isn't the debate. They debate is whether the warming that may or may not be happening is man made.
I seem to recall that at one time most of North America was covered in ice. Something caused that ice to melt. i don't believe it was automobiles.
Scot Beaton
6:47 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
http://markmaynard.com/2012/03/neil-degrasse-tyson-blinding-bob-lutz-with-science/
Everyone’s favorite super cool scientist, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, had what I found to be an interesting exchange with GM’s former chairman, Bob Lutz.
The ball got rolling when Lutz, who, as you’ll recall, was quoted in 2004 as saying that global warming was “a total crock of ----” doubled down on the idiocy, stating that he knows for a fact that global warming isn’t a problem because he owns a house in the Florida Keys that isn’t underwater.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson, our generation’s great defender of evidence-based discovery, and all things sciency, came back with the following quote… “There’s a saying in the scientific community, that every great truth goes through three phases. First, people deny it. Second, they say that it conflicts with the Bible. Third, they say that they’ve known it all along.”
For those who's brain size is smaller than a robin please visit the rest of this link.
Rob
6:40 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
If the government is so worried the environment,why do they allow Nestle`s to pump up to 500,000 gallons of water out of the ground at their Stanwood,Michigan Ice Mountain water plant for literally nothing?
You see they want to limit what the citizens use and keep raising rates but give these multi national corporations a free hand to whatever they want.
Does that bother anyone? It`s all part of Agenda 21.Google it.
marooned in Dbn
11:29 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
Scot Beaton. I could have told you about Lutz. I personaly told him around 2005, what I thought about GM policies. The only way he responded to me was mention hypotheticals about whether the price of a cup of Starbucks is really high, or is the price of their product just "perceived" to be that way. Later...after his retirement from GM, he goes on a Sunday TV program and blasts GM's management policies, almost plagiarizing what I told him.
Ed Lambert
6:45 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
So a few saps at one of the UN-sponsored NGOs decided to offer another one of its "It's My Turn to Feel Good" nonsensical exercises.
North Koreans won't have to be asked to turn off their lights. Satellite photos show that place to be mainly dark. Nobody in the UN seems to be interested in pressuring the "Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea" to make any changes.
Rob
7:02 pm on Sunday, April 1, 2012
Just wait when the utility companies get these new meters installed on houses that communicate with newer appliances.They will dial down your thermostat in the winter whether you like it or not.They will dictate how much water you use,natural gas and electricity.
As much as most of us enjoy this high tech we have there is a very big down side.
Which means a big brother state that wants to control your life in all ways possible.
Stefan
1:26 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
They're gonna come down with the black helicopters with the Greys that have been living in Roswell to put us in FEMA camps. Better stock up on gold, canned goods, and tinfoil hats.
Rob
6:48 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
OK Stefan,take some time to learn about Agenda 21,sustainable development and the Wildlands Project.Brought to you by the United Nations and agreed upon by your government.Google those terms one at a time.
These ideas are about much more than the environment.
marooned in Dbn
8:39 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
I admit I forgot all about Earth Day. I had all lights on, all computers on, all TV's on, all X-Box's ...on, all stoves,refridgerators....on, all plugs inserted into wall sockets...in the sockets, ect,ect., and the Earth is still here as I type. Question... Did Al Gore turn anything off in his TN mega,mega mansion? Did any UN grand kleptomaniacs turn anything off at their grand estates? Will your electric bill at your artifically higher taxed bungalow in Dbn be any less for your grand effort at sitting in the dark, twiddling your thumbs in boredom, for that hour ? Did our illustreous mayor turn anything off....really ? Did any of the elite organisors of this Earth Day "event", turn off ALL their powered luxuries...really? Really folks, YOU sit in the #%@* dark, like someone in the 6th century...just because somebody with more than you will ever have in 5 lifetimes TOLD you to ? Sad, but not surprising.
Daryl Patrishkoff
8:43 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
Whether you believe in "global warming", "climate change", "Agenda 21" or another movement or event it is good to conserve! There are plenty of so called experts that line up on either side of this issue. I happen to believe that the planet goes through cycles over long periods of time, remember the ice age, then all the glaciers pulled back and sculpted our landscape. Then they came back and are now receding. The debate is: Is what we are doing as humans speeding up this process?
This should not be about these agendas, it should be about us using our resources wisely as we see fit for our personal needs and expectations. Just think if we save on energy we spend less money and have more disposable income, so conservation is a good thing.
In industry I love to see the plants I work with use and dispose of their waste and in many cases use them as energy which causes efficiencies, this is smart. We do not need any incentives to make us do this, we just need to be educated on how this saves us money and helps out the bigger picture of the environment.
If this event helps us educate ourselves and not pushes an agenda, I am in!
Rob
12:54 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
I can agree with that Daryl.
marooned in Dbn
8:48 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
I forgot to mention....did any of your favorite soup, chile, sandwich and BBQ places turn anythin' off ? Btw, when was Earth Day ? Did it fall on a Sunday ? If so...did those establishments volunteer to turn everything off on Monday to compensate?
Lianne Mathie
9:11 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
Yummy coal right in our back yard,
http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/04/river-rouge-coal-plant-photos
Michelle Dainus
10:21 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
The lack of intelligent thought displayed by the people in this story does not surprise me. If some of you people actually did your research instead of listening to the talking heads, you may be able to come up with something that sounds half way educated to respond with if you disagree with something.
Oh and congratulations to you crack pot fools who use extra energy to "make up for your neighbors turning their lights off", with that high utility bill you really showed them who's boss.
Rob
1:07 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Michelle,your take on this situation from a earlier post? If the government is so concerned with the environment,why do they let this go on?
If the government is so worried the environment,why do they allow Nestle`s to pump up to 500,000 gallons of water out of the ground at their Stanwood,Michigan Ice Mountain water plant for literally nothing?
You see they want to limit what the citizens use and keep raising rates but give these multi national corporations a free hand to whatever they want.
Michelle Dainus
1:48 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Rob, the reason the government can not get anything done is because congress is divided. The rhetoric has gotten out of hand, and apparently compromising and working together is a dirty word. I will not point fault at any one party, because in my opinion, they are all acting like petulant children.
I spent a whole semester researching the current status of the electric grid in the US, and frankly, it scares me. I am not a conspiracy theorist, I am a designer, so it is in my best interest to educate myself on alternate energy systems, because that is simply the way the industry is going. I really wish that you and your peers would research from NON-BIASED sources, like peer-reviewed journals before making ignorant claims, like "the government is out to get us, and limit our water, electricity, etc..." because that does not help the situation.
So I encourage you to educate yourself about smart metering (which is a great idea, and a helpful tool when it comes to energy consumption), and other options. The status quo is no longer an option, and we will have to change our energy consumption habits. Why not lead the way, instead of being sheep.
I am not out to personally attack anyone, but I do not respond to stupidity. Arguing with an idiot does no good, and turns you into an idiot as well.
marooned in Dbn
3:00 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Hey Dainus, way to go to a path of personal arrogance by makeing yourself the arbiter of public intelligence.
Michelle Dainus
4:01 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Marooned, I am not arrogant, but thank you for your opinion, as you know my stance on arguing with idiots (or trolls as the internet savvy kids call it these days).
Rob
6:48 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Michelle,the division in Washington is a mirage in many ways.By the end of the day 90% of them play for the same team.That team consists of big corporations and the globalists.Don`t be fooled by the left/right paradigm.They go back and forth but when it`s all said and done the corporations and globalists win and the people lose.
Do you really trust the government to do the best thing for the country and it`s people? These endless wars that have done nothing to better the U.S. In fact we are being steered toward`s a police state in the name of protecting us from terrorists.
The government let these Wall Street banksters fleece us for trillions and walk away from it.They have looted Social Security have buried us in 16 trillion in debt.
They have allowed millions of good paying jobs be outsourced.Jobs that created millions in tax revenue and made the economy churn.In fact,our government has given away the store to China.Communist China at that.All I heard growing up is that the commies were our biggest enemies.
Those aren`t conspiracy theories.Those conspiracy facts.
If you claim you`re all about learning the truth,you won`t mind investing over a hour of your time and watching this video.
The Ultimate War - Globalism vs. America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYsXN4AnMJQ
This is NOT left vs. right.This is the power elite against humanity.The term "putting lipstick on a pig" apllies to this green agenda.
Michelle Dainus
7:07 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Rob, I completely agree with a lot of the examples you have given, in fact I am with you. A lot of what we see are people who are all pandering to the same thing, big business (don't get me started on citizens united). I try to be as educated as I can on both sides of the argument, and I'll look into that video.
I can not ignore the direction my industry (the building industry) is going, "green" is no longer a trendy buzzword, it is engrained in the curriculum that I was taught in school. I see nothing wrong with being environmentally responsible, buying local, minimizing the effects that chemicals have on indoor air quality, minimizing the amount of energy that appliances use, etc. Those are all good things that any responsible person should do. Is regulation the answer, probably not, but sometimes it can't hurt either.
I value your opinion, and having intelligent and civil debates on these kinds of issues. I may not agree with somethings being "conspiracy facts", but I am not opposed to listening and gaining another point of view.
Rob
7:35 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Michelle said "I see nothing wrong with being environmentally responsible, buying local, minimizing the effects that chemicals have on indoor air quality, minimizing the amount of energy that appliances use, etc. Those are all good things that any responsible person should do. Is regulation the answer, probably not, but sometimes it can't hurt either."
I agree 100% with you.Everyone should want a clean environment.This issue is not black and white by any means.There is much more than meets the eye which you will see in that video.
It reminds of this war on terror.It`s like who doesn`t want to protect the country from terrorists? I`m for it.A strong national defense is a good thing.
As time went by it was easy to see there were many ulterior motives for these wars.Over a trillion dollars spent so the war profiteers could clean up.Do you think maybe big oil hasn`t and isn`t making big money off of Iraqi oil?
As I mentioned before the approaching police state in the name of protecting us.
Did you know congress voted that drones can be used in the U.S.?
Just as the war on terror had some big ulterior motives so doesn this green movement.It`s far from being black and white.The devil`s in the details.
I appreciate the civil conversation,also.
marooned in Dbn
5:58 am on Tuesday, April 3, 2012
Danius, I also thank you for your reply. Your disguised effort to call me an idiot, or as you refer to the online community description....(troll), confirms my inital opinion of your spite tactics.
Ed Lambert
12:37 pm on Sunday, April 8, 2012
Ms Dainus, care to identify the "talking heads"? I'll clue you in: they're found ALSO at mainstream media readers' desks. I think you will find that the agenda-driven types began the first preachings (incessantly) about "man-made global warming." It took the alternative media to expose the falsity of the "facts" presented. You remember the Climategate scandal, no?
That is part of the cause for disdain by so many people when "the environment" is the subject of discussion.
It is great to know that you are focussed on the need for our intelligent use and conservation of resources.
Earth Day likely resulted in a greater waste of resources in its promotion than what it saved.
Hugh McDiarmid, Jr.
10:37 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
Rules requiring modern energy efficiencies are not UN plots to enslave us. It is tiresome to listen to the fearful wailing of wackos every single time a proposal is made to increase efficiency, increase renewable energy or protect public health. This "crying wolf" is skillfully abetted and encouraged by those who stand to profit from NOT moving forward with new technologies (IE fossil fuel lobbies). There may come a day when our liberties are truly threatened by dangerous agendas -- but efficient light bulbs, wind turbines and replacement of outdated electric meter technologies are not among them.
Ed Lambert
10:48 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
Yes, McDiarmid, by why does lightbulb efficiency have to be even brighter and harsh light filling rooms or illuminating front porches. Where's the technology to give us efficiency as well as the softer lighting that the incandescent lamps provide?
Wind turbines? From what I've read there's a whole group of problems associated with that, including storage of energy, downtime when the wind isn't blowing, excessive noise that nobody would want to live near, etc.
Yes, the UN is loaded with plots to enslave us. The last thing the UN is interested in is democracy, otherwise it wouldn't be pushing ultimately for world government. Its forerunner is the EU, and Europeans are already seeing this newest version of enslavement and complaining loudly.
By the way: satisfying demands for electricity for electric cars?
Or perhaps you are unaware of all thiis.
Michelle Dainus
11:27 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
In response to your question about lighting Ed, it all really has to do with the color temperature of the luminaire, LEDs and CFLs are available in the same color temperature as incandescent luminaires (2,700K - 3,000 K, just look at the packaging of what you are currently using, and make sure it matches it's counter part). You really just have to do your research, and be an educated consumer.
Ed Lambert
10:39 am on Monday, April 2, 2012
We should make efforts to conserve energy. Despite my dislike for the "feel good" crowd always into meaningless displays, I have the electric bills to prove that I conserve. Likewise with gas. And the recycle bin has resulted in our having hardly one-half bag of garbage to be put in the landfill each week.
No reason for parking lots and business facades to be lit up all night long.
Turning off the power for an hour one night a year is a meaningless gesture if it isn't accompanied by conservation that we can notice daily by the constraints we've placed on ourselves.
Sometimes "anal" is good!
Ed Lambert
11:00 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Ms Dainus, thanks for the tip. I have avoided the CFLs entirely based only on what I find on display in my own neighborhood. I am repulsed by what I see. Perhaps my neighbors had not done the comparision you suggest and merely bought the first thing they saw on the shelf. I don't know. Based on what you say, however, I am willing to compare and experiment.
Hugh McDiarmid, Jr.
12:19 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Listing the problems and challenges of new ideas -- efficient lightbulbs, electric cars, wind energy -- is a hardly argument against them. We can shrink back fearfully into our safe (and increasingly expensive an unsustainable) status quo or move forward into new technologies and systems. We'll screw some things up, make some mistakes. We'll also grow, learn and refine the best ideas.
Ed Lambert
11:06 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012
Hugh, you pass off very lightly what amount to huge investments in questionable experiments.
By the way, where's the evidence that current methods are unsustainable? We all know why they are becoming more expensive: Obama gave a clue when he told the coal industry what to expect if it tries more mining. Or did you not hear about his remark?
The hand of government is a heavy one, and it gets much of its energy not from proven facts but from contrived agendas. Heck, there are now three years full of that stuff for the record.
Ed Lambert
9:56 pm on Tuesday, April 3, 2012
"Ed... I'm a big fan of Neil DeGrasse Tyson, he made a inserting comment lately. I'll try to paraphrase what he said. A true 'conservative' would want to conserve the plant's natural resources... and a 'liberal' would be the one who is liberal with our natural resources." -Scot Beaton
Scott, I agree with you There are some estimates that the US alone has enough oil reserves to sustain us for more than a century. I don't know whether that's true, but I do know that the leadership of the "greenies" seems bent on removing fossil fuel exlporation and nuclear energy as sources. They want development only on those forms that already have been shown to be frought with difficulties--and which private enterprises seem to have little interest in pursuing unless backed by the taxpayers' dollars.
Good point regarding the turnabout for the labels "conservative" and "liberal." It's been going on for decades. Today's liberals are openminded about nothing running counter to their own agenda. They won't revisit failed policies that continue to suck up funding and insist even more funding be given.
Conservatives are tje racists--and the fact that bigotry was strongest in the solidly Democrat South is not an argument that even seem to comprehend.
Oh, yes: Obama insists that a Supreme Court ruling on the constitutionality of a law is an "activist" court, when we all know that term is used to describe jurists who give rulings that produce law.
And so on.
Rob
4:58 pm on Saturday, April 7, 2012
The Face of Authoritarian Environmentalism
An Oregon University professor has controversially compared skepticism of global warming to racism.
Sociology and environmental studies professor Kari Norgaard wrote a paper criticising non-believers, suggesting that doubters have a ‘sickness’.
The professor, who holds a B.S. in biology and a master’s and PhD in sociology, argued that ‘cultural resistance’ to accepting humans as being responsible for climate change ‘must be recognized and treated’ as an aberrant sociological behavior.
Really? Doubters have an illness? Isn’t pathologising dissidents a hallmark of authoritarianism? Weren’t dissidents under the Soviet Union often sent to psychiatric hospitals to be “treated” for their behavior?
Norgaard last week attended the annual four-day ‘Planet Under Pressure’ international conference in London, where she presented her controversial paper to delegates on Wednesday.
The scientists behind the event recently put out a statement calling for humans to be packed into denser cities so that the rest of the planet can be surrendered to mother nature.
And fellow attendee Yale University professor Karen Seto told MSNBC: ‘We certainly don’t want them (humans) strolling about the entire countryside. We want them to save land for nature by living closely [together].
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-face-authoritarian-environmentalism
Scot Beaton
5:28 pm on Saturday, April 7, 2012
Rob,
'The scientists behind the event recently put out a statement calling for humans to be packed into denser cities so that the rest of the planet can be surrendered to mother nature. '
You'll like this Architect who has been taking that argument to the extreme for decades.
Paolo Soleri
http://www.arcosanti.org/project/background/soleri/main.html
http://www.arcosanti.org/media/publication/arcologynew06.html
Rob
9:23 am on Sunday, April 8, 2012
Like I`ve said a few times already on this thread.Who doesn`t want a clean environment? Most people do.Taking steps to achieve that are a good thing.
But not when it`s masqueraded with huge taxes and total control of the population.
That`s exactly where this is headed.
Agenda 21.Straight from the United Nations web site.All leading to control of the people and a one world government.Or a new world order.
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/
Rob
11:29 am on Sunday, April 8, 2012
Check this out.
Agenda21 – Wildlands Plan is in full swing in California – 42 Roads to close in El Dorado National Forest
Court Order Prohibits Motorized Vehicle Travel on 42 Popular OHV Routes
Release Date: Apr 4, 2012 Placerville, CA
Forty-two off-highway-vehicle routes that cross meadows in the Eldorado National Forest may be closed to motor vehicle travel this recreation season while the Forest Service completes an environmental analysis, announced Eldorado National Forest Supervisor Kathy Hardy.
The potential travel prohibitions are the result of a February 2012 court order by U.S. District Court Judge Lawrence Karlton. The order said the Forest Service failed to comply with the National Forest Management Act in 2008 when it designated “open for public motor vehicle use” portions of 42 routes that cross meadows. Judge Karlton ordered the Forest Service to “set aside” the decision that designated these segments as open and to reconsider the decision.
A final court order with further direction to the Forest Service is pending. In the interim, Karlton ordered the 42 routes remain closed to motorized public use. The final order will identify specifically where travel will be prohibited until a new environmental decision is made.
http://ppjg.me/2012/04/07/agenda-21-california/
Steve Tegge
10:59 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
Being a hunter and a fisherman, I am a big fan of responsible use of the environment. It is not a conspiracy that people are seeking to control us through environmental regulation. It is obvious from grade school through college and beyond that there is a form of green indoctrination going on. Some of the activism is good and has resulted in good things for society, but once governments start mandating things and creating regulations that suppress freedom of choice it becomes a problem to me. Enough of that, I wanted to share an article that made me think. Maybe our carbon emissions are the earth's way of dealing with our over-population. Check it out.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/295098/carbon-emissions-are-good-robert-zubrin
Rob
8:53 am on Saturday, April 21, 2012
Global warning,endless wars and country after country going bankrupt are all coming into play in a effort to force a one world government.A new world order.
Being that it`s easy to see how endless wars and burying countries in debt could of been orchestrated.Doesn`t it add up that global warming could be trumped up also?
Wake up people.There is much more going on here than meets the eye.
jonathan
11:16 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
The sneakiest way to win a game is pitting team players against one another.
While you and I argue, or do nothing, millions of gallons from our Great Lakes are being pumped and shipped off to never return. Thats just wrong Green or not.
Rob
8:54 am on Saturday, April 21, 2012
The tab for U.N.’s Rio summit: Trillions per year in taxes, transfers and price hikes
April 20, 2012
FoxNews.com
The upcoming United Nations environmental conference on sustainable development will consider a breathtaking array of carbon taxes, transfers of trillions of dollars from wealthy countries to poor ones, and new spending programs to guarantee that populations around the world are protected from the effects of the very programs the world organization wants to implement, according to stunning U.N. documents examined by Fox News.
The main goal of the much-touted, Rio + 20 United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development, scheduled to be held in Brazil from June 20-23, and which Obama Administration officials have supported, is to make dramatic and enormously expensive changes in the way that the world does nearly everything—or, as one of the documents puts it, "a fundamental shift in the way we think and act."
Among the proposals on how the “challenges can and must be addressed,” according to U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon:
--More than $2.1 trillion a year in wealth transfers from rich countries to poorer ones, in the name of fostering “green infrastructure, ” “climate adaptation” and other “green economy” measures.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/20/tab-for-uns-rio-summit-trillions-per-year-in-taxes-transfers-and-price-hikes/#ixzz1sgACkimS
Rob
7:34 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
In case anyone thought this was some kind of right wing movement,it`s not.
DEMOCRATS AGAINST U. N. AGENDA 21
Have you wondered where these terms 'sustainability' and 'smart growth' and 'high density urban mixed use development' came from? Doesn't it seem like about 10 years ago you'd never heard of them and now everything seems to include these concepts? Is that just a coincidence? That every town and county and state and nation in the world would be changing their land use/planning codes and government policies to align themselves with...what?
http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/